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Johann Bailer

Johann Bailer

Male 1842 - 1927  (85 years)

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  • Name Johann Bailer  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13] 
    Born 14 Apr 1842  Salmendingen, Zollernalbkreis, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 14] 
    Gender Male 
    Died 5 May 1927  Otisco, Onondaga, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [8, 9, 13, 14] 
    Buried 7 May 1927  Otisco, Onondaga County, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  [8, 9] 
    • Lake View Cemetery
    Person ID I1480  MySiscoFamily
    Last Modified 17 Jan 2018 

    Father Richard Bailer,   b. 14 Jan 1806, Salmendingen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 29 Dec 1880, Salmendingen, Zollernalbkreis, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Mother Johanna Seele,   b. 14 Jan 1806, Salmendingen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Dec 1871, Salmendingen, Zollernalbkreis, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 65 years) 
    Relationship natural 
    Married 10 Mar 1835  Salmendingen, Baden-Württemberg, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F94  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Elizabeth Edinger,   b. 6 Sep 1849, Erdesbach, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Dec 1926, Otisco, Onondaga, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years) 
    Married 1874  [2] 
    Children 
     1. John Bailer,   b. 21 Jun 1881, Otisco, New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Mar 1964, Hallstead, Susquehanna, Pennsylvania Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 82 years)  [natural]
     2. William Bailer,   b. 25 Apr 1888, Otisco, Onondaga, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 May 1961, Otisco, Onondaga, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 73 years)  [natural]
     3. Floyd Bailer,   b. 13 May 1896, New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 7 Mar 1972, Tully, Onondaga, New York, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 75 years)  [natural]
     4. George Bailer,   b. 26 Feb 1875, New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 27 Apr 1952, Otisco, Onondaga, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 77 years)  [natural]
     5. Fred Bailer,   b. 18 Oct 1879, Otisco Township, Onondaga, New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Sep 1968, Syracuse, Onondaga, New York, United States of America Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years)  [natural]
     6. Charles Bailer,   b. 8 Nov 1882, Otisco, Onondaga, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 Feb 1964, Westover, Broome, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)  [natural]
     7. Elizabeth Bailer,   b. 9 Jan 1873, Skaneateles, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 Mar 1968, Syracuse, Onondaga, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 95 years)  [natural]
     8. Edward Bailer,   b. 25 Mar 1885, New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 26 Aug 1929, Otisco, Onondaga, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 44 years)  [natural]
     9. Bert Bailer,   b. 23 May 1893, Otisco, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 8 Sep 1967, Syracuse, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years)  [natural]
     10. Anna Bailer,   b. 2 Sep 1891, New York Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Jan 1973, Syracuse, Onondaga, New York, United States Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)  [natural]
     11. Frances Bailer,   b. 4 Jan 1878, Skaneatlas, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 3 Aug 1947, Otisco, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 69 years)  [natural]
    Last Modified 17 Jan 2018 
    Family ID F399  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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    Link to Google MapsDied - 5 May 1927 - Otisco, Onondaga, New York, USA Link to Google Earth
    Link to Google MapsBuried - 7 May 1927 - Otisco, Onondaga County, New York, USA Link to Google Earth
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  • Notes 
    • Johann Bailer was born April 14, 1842 to Richard Bailer and Johanna (Seele) Bailer and according to church records received his first communion in 1856 at St. Michael’s Catholic Church in Salmendingen, Germany.

      Salmendingen is a small agrarian village located on the Swabian Alb in the southern German state of Baden-Wurttemberg. In Germany, whenever a town ends in “ingen” it indicates an Alemannic settlement. Church records have the Bailers living in Salmendingen in 1777.

      Johann (John) Bailer and his brother Christian (Chris), who was three years younger were the only two children of Richard and Johanna Bailer to immigrate to America. While the exact reason that compelled them to leave family and friends has been lost to history, family lore provides two possibilities. Johann's son, Floyd Bailer shares that he had always heard that they immigrated to escape conscription into the Kaiser's army and most certain death. Johann's grand-nephew Eugen Bailer, who lives in Germany believes that they immigrated because farming conditions became poor due to famine and drought making farming jobs became scarce. America held the promise of jobs.

      In 1865, Johann received his official papers allowing him to immigrate to North America. The 1920 US Federal census lists his immigration year as 1865. He became a naturalized citizen sometime before 1875 according to the 1875 NYS Census.

      It is believed that Johann landed in New York harbor. Family lore has it that he had heard that the landscape and climate of central New York was like that of his hometown of Salmendingen which is located in the Black Forest area of Baden-Wurttemburg Germany. Johann kept a journal documenting his voyage to America. The journal is now in the possession of Richard Bailer, son of Horace Bailer. While the journal is written in German, written in English on the inside back cover is the note, "Please direct to Baldwinsville, Clay Corners, Brewerton, West Monroe." Baldwinsville. This address is in the Syracuse vicinity which is near where he settled. The name Basil Bailer is also notated in the journal with an address in central New York. It might be assumed that Basil was a relative who had already immigrated and was a "sponsor" for Johann.

      John worked as a laborer on what began as the Syracuse and Binghamton Railroad. In addition to passengers, this railroad also carried coal mined in Pennsylvania to be used as fuel for the salt mines of Syracuse. In 1869, this railroad company merged with the Delaware, Lackawanna and Western Railroad Company therefore Johann may have been employed by the D, L & W railroad.

      He met Elizabeth Edinger in the United States. Even though her family immigrated to America from Germany, Elizabeth was born in the United States after her family’s arrival. They had their first child, Elizabeth "Lizzie" on January 9, 1873 and according to the 1900 Federal census they were married in 1874.

      At some point, Johann Bailer leased a farm in Skaneateles, NY from Ann C. Briggs, entering into a lease agreement on August 26, 1874. He agreed to pay $160.00 annually along with paying highway and school taxes on the property. The lease agreement also required Johann to supply Ann Briggs with all the apples that she and her family might require.

      John (Johann), then settled in a small empty house at 1999 Buckwheat Rd., Otisco. The house, built in 1850 was vacated when the owner, John O'Connell and his family decided to follow Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism westward abandoning their Buckwheat Road home. Sometime after the Bailers had moved into the house, John O'Connell showed up and demanded that they get out. The matter ended up in court and the court found in favor of the Bailers, therefore they were able to take over ownership of the house and property. During the time that the property was being contested a guard had to be posted at the Bailer house because the O’Connell’s were threatening to burn the house down while the family was asleep. On January 15th, 1894, John O'Connell pointed a gun at Johann resulting in an arrest warrant for O'Connell.

      After John and Elizabeth passed away, the house was occupied by the son Floyd Bailer, who lived there until his death in 1972. James and Lynn Cummings now own the home. It has been remodeled but the Cummings incorporated a large beam from the existing structure as the Bailer family had made inscriptions in it.

      John and Elizabeth spoke German in their home, so English was a second language for the children.

  • Sources 
    1. [S13] 1920 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Year: 1920; Census Place: Otisco, Onondaga, New York; Roll: T625_1246; Page: 4A; Enumeration District: 91; Image: 1146.

    2. [S26] 1900 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2004;), Year: 1900; Census Place: Otisco, Onondaga, New York; Roll: 1135; Page: 1B; Enumeration District: 0066; FHL microfilm: 1241135.

    3. [S17] New York, State Census, 1925, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;), New York State Archives; Albany, New York; State Population Census Schedules, 1925; Election District: 01; Assembly District: 01; City: Otisco; County: Onondaga; Page: 1.

    4. [S181] New York, State Census, 1915, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;), New York State Archives; Albany, New York; State Population Census Schedules, 1915; Election District: 01; Assembly District: 01; City: Otisco; County: Onondaga; Page: 20.

    5. [S37] 1880 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2010;), Year: 1880; Census Place: Otisco, Onondaga, New York; Roll: 906; Family History Film: 1254906; Page: 173C; Enumeration District: 190; Image: 0347.

    6. [S4] Ancestry Family Trees, (Name: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members.;), Ancestry Family Trees.
      http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=11714637&pid=-412810030

    7. [S101] 1910 United States Federal Census, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations Inc; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2006;), Year: 1910; Census Place: Otisco, Onondaga, New York; Roll: T624_1054; Page: 2A; Enumeration District: 0082; FHL microfilm: 1375067.

    8. [S68] Web: New York, Find A Grave Index, 1660-2012, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;).
      death date: 05 MAY 1927 death place: Otisco, Onondaga, New York, USA birth date: 14 APR 1842 birth place: Salmendingen, Zollernalbkreis, Baden-Wuerttemberg, Germany Name: Johann Bailer burial place: Amber, NY

    9. [S69] U.S., Find A Grave Index, 1600s-Current, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;).

    10. [S416] New York, State Census, 1875, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2013;).

    11. [S182] New York, State Census, 1892, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA; Date: 2012;).

    12. [S672] New York, County Marriages, 1847-1849; 1907-1936, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Lehi, UT, USA; Date: 2016;).

    13. [S648] New York, Death Index, 1880-1956, Ancestry.com, (Name: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.; Location: Lehi, UT, USA; Date: 2017;), New York Department of Health; Albany, NY; NY State Death Index; Certificate Number: 31638.

    14. [S1] OneWorldTree, Ancestry.com, (Name: Name: The Generations Network, Inc.; Location: Provo, UT, USA;;), Database online.
      Record for John Bailer


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